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5 Lessons from Tim Ferriss on Building Meaningful Relationships
What we can learn from Tim's interviewing skills when it comes to building meaningful relationships.
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Iâm on a family reunion this week, so enjoy this repost from last year!
Topic: What Tim Ferriss can teach us about building meaningful relationships
Tactic: 5 lessons from Tim's interview style
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Today, we are discussing Tim Ferriss and how his ability to build relationships has been a key differentiator in the massive success of his podcastâThe Tim Ferriss Show.
If you are not familiar with Tim Ferriss, heâs an entrepreneur, investor, author, podcaster, and lifestyle guru. In addition to his successful podcast, Tim is the author of The 4 Hour Work Week (along with numerous other books on lifestyle optimization), creator of the popular newsletter 5-Bullet Friday, and has stacked up impressive angel investing accolades with companies including Uber, Twitter, Shopify, and Duolingo.
In a recent podcast, Tim Ferriss flips his typical scriptâwhere he does the interviewingâand is interviewed by legendary investor Bill Gurley. Tim touches on some insightful topics of how he preps for interviews on his podcast.
There is a reason Timâs podcast sticks out amongst a sea of similarly made podcasts. Sure, his guests are well known and already have built in followers.
But itâs more than that. Timâs ability to quickly establish rapport, build a real relationship with guests, and make them comfortable enough to discuss topics they have not covered on other podcasts are just a few of the things that makes him great at what he does.
So, what does Tim Ferrissâ interviewing style teach us about building meaningful relationships?
5 Things Tim Ferrissâ Interview Style Teaches Us About Building Meaningful Relationships:
1. Do Your Homework
Takeaway: âBefore I even invite someone, [Iâm] looking at long-form video and audio to the extent possibleâŠIâm looking for any odd hobbies or comments that werenât fleshed outâŠIt will prove to the interviewee that I have actually looked at the details and done my homework, which is really important for a lot of interviewees. Because if you donât prove that early, theyâre going to go on autopilot and theyâre gone."
Tip: If you have a planned meetup with someone newâlike a job interview, a networking intro, etc.âyou should always do your research on them. Take a look at their LinkedIn, find out what they like, speculate on their goals, and anticipate how you can be helpful. It helps direct the conversation and shows that you are interested in them. If you show up unprepared, expect awkward gaps in an unmemorable conversation.
2. Talk About Topics that are Being Neglected
Takeaway: âI will try to identify what has been neglected, what has not been mentioned, and that can lead to some interesting places. Not always comfortable places"
Tip: Even when we research someone, we still are only seeing part of the picture. I like to think there are multiple sides to everyone (like Everything, Everywhere, All at Once). Be curious and ask questions that lead to topics they may not get to talk about often. Itâs the difference between asking âwhat are your strengths?â and âif your best friend was your job reference, what would they say about you?â
3. Understand Their Motivations
Takeaway: âThen I ask them, and people comment on this because almost no one asks this, âWhat would make this a home run for you? Looking back after itâs published, say two months after itâs published, what would make this one of your favorite interviews or something that you would point people to?â"
Tip: The quicker you understand someone's ambitions and goals, the quicker you can speak in terms of their wants and (most importantly) demonstrate how you can help them achieve those wants. This puts you in a very valuable place by establishing the grounds for a mutually beneficial relationship. Now you evoke a sense of reciprocity once you help them.
4. Open Up so They Feel Comfortable Doing the Same
Takeaway: âIf I want to try to unbox something that hasnât been explored before, thereâs probably a good reason it hasnât been explored. So, I will find something in that same category. Could be relationships, could be a business failure. I will volunteer that information from my side first just to provide some transparency."
Tip: No discussion should silo either person into âthe question askerâ and âthe responder.â Conversations go two ways, especially when theyâre meaningful. Mention upfront how a question relates back to you (i.e. if you answered the question, what you would say). This sets the stage for earning reciprocity, getting the person to be more comfortable answering the question, and feeling more connected to you after knowing your perspective.
5. The Importance of Being Introduced
Takeaway: âI will very frequently ask guests, not always, but ask them if thereâs anyone they think would really have fun having a conversation on the podcast. So Iâd say 70 percent of the guests come from other guests at this point.â
Tip: A great way to continue to expand your network in a meaningful way is to ask strong connections who they think youâd be interested in connecting with. This allows you to use vetted connections to make introductions. This is significantly more targeted than cold networking or even going to events that have many different people looking for many different things. The chances of having an interesting conversation and finding a meaningful connection are materially higher than going in blind.
Tim teaches us how to make conversations productive, unique, and mutually beneficialâthree things that make all the difference in establishing trust upfront versus losing interest immediately from new connections.
So make sure to do your homework, ask the right questions, and answer the right questions so you can make the most out of every conversationâand avoid being called Billy Madison.
It doesn't take too much to build relationships, here's what I'm committing to this week:
đ„© Being the designated chef for a family steak dinner
đ Watching my future brother-in-lawâs comedy show
đ Spending quality time on the beach with family
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Best of luck building,
Devin